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Re: Test post
by Jared Jennings 09 May '07

09 May '07

Why isn't this threading.... Jared On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 07:03 -0500, Jared Jennings wrote: > Sorry if this is not acceptable. > > Jared > > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Test post
by Jared Jennings 09 May '07

09 May '07

Sorry if this is not acceptable. Jared

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General Apology,
by Earle Beason 09 May '07

09 May '07

I didn't realize how much of an impact that last message would have, I will take responsibility and admit there was a definite misunderstanding within the communication. I will acknowledge that until yesterday, I had been ghosting, and trying to pick up tips on the stuff I didn't know, I didn't know. With the comments sent out yesterday, I felt the attitude should have been addressed. My first encounter with Linux was in 1997, I think it was slackware. I was on a deployment on the USS Leyte Gulf. I was toying around with a cast off laptop. My only connection with any information was this jerk that had the attitude "I better then you because I know." His attitude turned me away from Linux, and Linux Users. About six months ago a security guard I worked with told me about Linux. He allowed me to put a portion of my server/processing stuff and his Laptop for a week. P3, 800 MHz, it out performed my P4 3 GHz. I bought his desktop that had fedora 5 loaded on it and nearly killed myself out of the frustration in the first two months. When I loaded ZOG and got my web space backup, I was defiantly pleased with the results. Since then I have met scores of Linux users who has this attitude the Linux is an elite club and membership is limited to fat greasy slobs living in the mothers basement. Ok well may that a bit of an exaggeration, but it serves the point. Until recently stumbling across the Craig’s list “Linux forum,” all my Linux contacts had been “in person” I personally feel that Linux should be given to anybody who asks, and a definite pedagogical relationship should be started with every individual who wants to know how to use Linux. It kind of like the old proverb, “In order to think, you must realize you’re capable of doing so” I think what you meant to say is that the TROLLS, are unworthy of attention. Be at peace Earle

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Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt
by Justin Dugger 08 May '07

08 May '07

A few lunches ago, someone jokingly suggested putting an Ubuntu CD in every dorm room as a way to get rid of all my spare CD-Rs I'm never gonna use. Since the people present were receptive to the idea, I decided to follow up on it. The Ubuntu people responded positively, but balked at the number we'd need. So at this point we have a few choices: * Make do with the 200 they've offered * Make our own from CD-Rs and labels * Ask for more from the right people within Ubuntu * Find sponsorship from local and Ubuntu related interests (ie Canonical, maybe Dell) So what's needed from the LUG now is opinions on the options, and of course alternative suggestions. Justin Dugger On 5/7/07, Marilize Coetzee <info(a)shipit.ubuntu.com > wrote: > > Hi Justin > > Thank you for contacting us. > > This is a wonderful idea, but unfortunately we cannot send you such a > large number of CD's. > The best I can do is 200. > If you are interested, place an order on Shipit and use my name as > reason for ordering. > https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ > > Kind regards > Marilize > > > > > Hi, > > I'm a member of Kansas State University's LUG, and we were > thinking > about promoting Linux usage on campus via Ubuntu. Personally, I > use > Ubuntu on all my computers and at the research lab, but our LUG > is more > diverse, involving gentoo devs and users of various other > platforms. > Still, the entire LUG seems to agree that Ubuntu is a great > match for > people new to linux, and we've handed out Dapper and Breezy CDs > at > previous events. > > We're thinking of doing something far more massive, potentially > using over a 1000 CDs. We'd like to see about getting an Ubuntu > CD > placed in the care package the dorms place in students rooms at > the > beginning of the school year. Do you think our LUG needs to > form a > LoCo subgroup first to be considered for something on this > scale? One > thing I want to avoid is converting our LUG into a tool to > promote a > single platform, even if it's very good for some of our purposes > ^_^ > > I of course realize that this bulk request of CDs may be > rejected as > inefficient and AOL-like. The original idea came up as a way to > dispense with the bulk CDs we've all purchased but realized > we'll > never use, and it occurred to me that shipIt might be a viable > avenue > for this, with excellent labels and inserts to boot. > > Justin Dugger > > >

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Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3
by Earle Beason 08 May '07

08 May '07

WELL, I usually one to promote free speech, however this is a travesty, I would be one of those "LUSERS" who happen to be running a windows XP (X3), Windows XP pro, Fedora 5 and Fedora 6 on different machines, Yes that 6 different computers. The wife and I are moving to an all Linux powered network Your nasty attitude about window users is exactly the crap the put me off from Linux for over a decade. From what I have read on this forum, If I handed my 4 year old the keyboard she would still be more productive then you at promoting Linux, mainly because she don't know how to talk trash. Both my wife are the so called "Least Common Denominator Users," Quite frankly I don't understand Linux, I don't know how to code , I don't know all the in and outs, however I am learning it as I go. What I do know is that I can install Fedora, Ubuntna, and Suse, and then get open office to cover the applications, and livina to cover movies and MP3s. With Linux seemingly o have everything built in I can google warrior any problem and get it fixed. So far my job, friends and family are impressed with the Linux system I put on their computers. I even got a dude I gave some computers to through craigslist, to format his drives and purge the illegal copy of Microsoft XP, and load fedora 6; He is happy with Linux At my job a twenty minute demonstration on a Linux laptop, got positive responses. My boss and several of my coworkers are starting to play with Linux, so far everyone has had good results in whatever application their running I climb off my hate-box now and ask for you to STFU and try doing something productive like educating all the poor who have illegal copies of Microsoft, on using a Linux system. You might find the "Least Common Denominator Users," are actually pretty intelligent people who are unaccustomed to the power of a Linux Machine and just need to be clued in Earle kclug-request(a)kclug.org wrote: >Send Kclug mailing list submissions to > kclug(a)kclug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kclug-request(a)kclug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > kclug-owner(a)kclug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Kclug digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Motherboard/Processor combo on ebay (Joe Brouhard) > 2. What SuSE users think (Jonathan Hutchins) > 3. Re: What SuSE users think (Oren Beck) > 4. Re: What SuSE users think (Jonathan Hutchins) > 5. Re: What SuSE users think (Jared Jennings) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 19:15:57 -0500 >From: "Joe Brouhard" <jbrouhard(a)gmail.com> >Subject: Motherboard/Processor combo on ebay >To: kclug(a)kclug.org, ubuntu-kc(a)googlegroups.com >Message-ID: > <a4f82ebc0705061715v1b1c27a0icce9b9dfd5fc9b55(a)mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Just a FYI.. i'm selling a motherboard/processor combo on ebay. The >reserve price is at $70. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE… > > >

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Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4
by Craig Aldinger 08 May '07

08 May '07

RE: Earle Beason, 07May07 I'm normally just a reader of KCLUG but, after reading that particular post, I'd like to put in my pocket change worth of comment. I don't understand code either and am probably a "least common denominator user" but, after spending many years wrangling around with the Gates Empire software, it has been a joy and an education to work and play in the open source code world. Thanks to KCLUG and Oren Beck in particular, I have learned more about computing in less than a year than I ever did in the lifetime prior to my inroduction to Linux. I don't have any particular axe to grind concerning Windows, just the observation that, after experiencing both Windows and Ubuntu/Kubuntu Linux, I'll happily take Linux any day. In the short time I have been reading this digest I haven't really observed anything truly hateful directed at Bill Gates/Windows, just a variety of opinions and/or comparisons, so I feel that Earle's "nasty attitude about window users" comment both inaccurate and unjustified. And to everybody in the KCLUG community, thank you for your ongoing dedication to the spirit of freedom! Rev C.E. Aldinger gonzogone(a)gmail.com On 5/7/07, kclug-request(a)kclug.org <kclug-request(a)kclug.org> wrote: > > Send Kclug mailing list submissions to > kclug(a)kclug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kclug-request(a)kclug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kclug-owner(a)kclug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Kclug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Job Opportunity (Steven Danz) > 2. Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt (Justin Dugger) > 3. Re: Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt (Jonathan Hutchins) > 4. Re: Ubuntu ShipIt (David Nicol) > 5. Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3 (Earle Beason) > 6. Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3 (Jonathan Hutchins) > 7. Re: Ubuntu ShipIt (Monty J. Harder) > 8. Free to good home... (Steven Danz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 13:29:34 -0500 > From: Steven Danz <steven-danz(a)kc.rr.com> > Subject: Job Opportunity > To: kclug <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Message-ID: <463F700E.8060802(a)kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > All, > > For anyone looking for a Linux sys admin (and more) position, this just > came up where I work: > > > http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/jobsearch.asp?q=Aviation+Weather+Center&jb… > > If you have any questions, just ask! > > Steven > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:14:40 -0500 > From: "Justin Dugger" <jldugger(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt > To: KCLUG <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Message-ID: > <816bc7510705071214w74e309e6jf32efbbe41797b0(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > A few lunches ago, someone jokingly suggested putting an Ubuntu CD in > every > dorm room as a way to get rid of > all my spare CD-Rs I'm never gonna use. Since the people present were > receptive to the idea, I decided to follow up on it. The Ubuntu people > responded positively, but balked at the number we'd need. > > So at this point we have a few choices: > * Make do with the 200 they've offered > * Make our own from CD-Rs and labels > * Ask for more from the right people within Ubuntu > * Find sponsorship from local and Ubuntu related interests (ie Canonical, > maybe Dell) > > So what's needed from the LUG now is opinions on the options, and of > course > alternative suggestions. > > Justin Dugger > > On 5/7/07, Marilize Coetzee <info(a)shipit.ubuntu.com > wrote: > > > > Hi Justin > > > > Thank you for contacting us. > > > > This is a wonderful idea, but unfortunately we cannot send you such a > > large number of CD's. > > The best I can do is 200. > > If you are interested, place an order on Shipit and use my name as > > reason for ordering. > > https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ > > > > Kind regards > > Marilize > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a member of Kansas State University's LUG, and we were > > thinking > > about promoting Linux usage on campus via Ubuntu. Personally, I > > use > > Ubuntu on all my computers and at the research lab, but our LUG > > is more > > diverse, involving gentoo devs and users of various other > > platforms. > > Still, the entire LUG seems to agree that Ubuntu is a great > > match for > > people new to linux, and we've handed out Dapper and Breezy CDs > > at > > previous events. > > > > We're thinking of doing something far more massive, potentially > > using over a 1000 CDs. We'd like to see about getting an Ubuntu > > CD > > placed in the care package the dorms place in students rooms at > > the > > beginning of the school year. Do you think our LUG needs to > > form a > > LoCo subgroup first to be considered for something on this > > scale? One > > thing I want to avoid is converting our LUG into a tool to > > promote a > > single platform, even if it's very good for some of our purposes > > ^_^ > > > > I of course realize that this bulk request of CDs may be > > rejected as > > inefficient and AOL-like. The original idea came up as a way to > > dispense with the bulk CDs we've all purchased but realized > > we'll > > never use, and it occurred to me that shipIt might be a viable > > avenue > > for this, with excellent labels and inserts to boot. > > > > Justin Dugger > > > > > > >

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Free to good home...
by Steven Danz 08 May '07

08 May '07

I have a 'standard' 79" tall server rack that I need to clear out of the garage for anyone that wants to come get it. Solid panels on three sides with two power strips and a fan in the top. I'm located down around Stanley, just south of OP. Steven

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Job Opportunity
by Steven Danz 07 May '07

07 May '07

All, For anyone looking for a Linux sys admin (and more) position, this just came up where I work: http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/jobsearch.asp?q=Aviation+Weather+Center&jb… If you have any questions, just ask! Steven

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Re: What SuSE users think
by Jared Jennings 07 May '07

07 May '07

I cannot agree with you on this statement. It's about time for a distribution to be available that would work for the corporate environment. There are many admins wanting to use a Linux Distribution because of the stability, but cannot because there is not a distribution available that has the product, technical, or corporate support. There are so many other distributions available that do not and will not care about the "BOTTOM" technical skilled user, that for one company to do this will not effect you. Jared On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 10:26 -0500, Jonathan Hutchins wrote: > By "lusers", I mean Least Common Denominator Users - the kind I really > wish > Linux would not try to recruit. Let Bill Gates have the bottom end of > the > cesspit. Linux is for people who can and want to understand and > control what > their computer is doing. Those who don't want to know should stick > with > Windows.

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What SuSE users think
by Jonathan Hutchins 07 May '07

07 May '07

Big survey of SuSE users: http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/6/6c/Opensuse_survey_102_data_final.p… Pretty much what I would expect, the majority are lusers who still run Windows.

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