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Re: OT: Bringing India Here (was Re: OT OS issue)
by Leo Mauler 03 May '05

03 May '05

Without getting too political, I was in fact referring to the Micro$oft anti-trust case which went from "break up the company" under the Clinton Justice Department to "slap on the wrist" under the Bush Justice Department. --- Oren Beck <orenbeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 5/3/05, Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The Bush Administration interfering with > > Micro$oft? Heaven forbid! :( > > Good point. > ANY true enemy of America will be anti-Linux. > Why should the Shrub be any different? > By extension Redmond will NEVER suffer a terrorist > act. > For if someone hampered MS and caused Linux to > spread faster > that would be a Very Good Thing for America. > UH- I meant to say OUR America and NOT the bush > fantasy. > > Oren __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: OT OS issue
by Garrett Goebel 03 May '05

03 May '05

Jack wrote: > > Best bet is: > > 1) back up any data, > 2) format and reinstall, > 3) apply all patches, > 4) reconfigure and reinstall any necessary 3rd party stuff. I feel your pain. I just bought my wife a new laptop and recycled the old one for my daughter. I spent the first 2-3 hours on my wife's machine applying patches, updating stuff, and migrating data over. My daughter's machine took about 6 hours. On #3, depending on the hardware, you need to look at your hardware vendor's website before blindly applying all Microsoft updates. When I booted off the "recovery" disks to restore my wife's old laptop to the factory default drive image... The first site I visted was Sony support. There were a couple updates for her laptop which read "apply this if XP locks up after installing the patch for Microsoft Knowledgebook ######...". Funny how I'd never been able to install XPsp2 because her machine locked up solid during the sp2 install... There were also Sony updates I couldn't install until after I'd applied XP service packs. So you really may have to interleave hardware vendor updates and Microsoft ones. If you need storage capacity, consider going down to MicroCenter, they currently have a deal on a Western Digital 7200RPM 120GB drive for $50 after rebates. They also have a $25 external usb drive enclosure. Its cheap looking, but it works. As a bonus, it is fairly easy to pull off the USB+power component and switch over to an IDE connector. You might also want to pick up a copy of Norton Ghost. Make sure it supports XP (XP's NTFS). They had a deal on Ghost at CompuUSA a while back for $40 after rebates. We use ghost a lot at work. I've heard Ghost 9+ is really Partition Magic Drive Imager made over to look like Ghost. It can do incremental images and scheduled backups. You can traverse and selectively copy files out of an image, and you can also supposedly mount backup images as a drive letter. If there's an OSS version of Ghost that works on NTFS partitions without requiring extensive reading and tweaking, please let me know. Funny how those proprietary OS's so often require proprietary $$$ backup solutions. -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro dot com

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TV Features
by Jonathan Hutchins 03 May '05

03 May '05

British Television has had a text service for a long time. This is usually linked to one of the four main channels you can get over broadcast, and is a menu of news, weather, and some advertising. The format is reminiscent of the BBS days of the '80s, all text menus, simple button press navigation. It's handy to chatch up on the news mid-day or grab a quick weather or traffic report. On Sky TV, the sattelite service in the U.K., they've used these functions to give you much more interactive TV features. The news channels allow you to go into an eight-channel multi-screen format, with a text sidebar and a ticker of your choice. Other options on the menu include some inter-active games and such, and the ability to read eMail from AOL, Yahoo, and a couple of other services (not MSN). Obviously, you need to have some sort of uplink for this to function; the Sky box uses the phone line that it makes PPV reports with, the same thing U.S. sattelite systems all have. I haven't bothered to go all the way into this - the phone line's disconnected from the box except for set-up - and I can imagine that if you wanted to reply to mail using a TV remote would be a pain, but I think it's pretty cool that they have these options. Who knows, some day the U.S. might catch up.

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Re: OT: Bringing India Here (was Re: OT OS issue)
by Jack 03 May '05

03 May '05

This could actually be good news, what with the way Cruise ships are killing off passengers with food poisoning. Hey maybe India, will have to outsource back to us to get back all the people they lose on the cruise ships. Nah, they'll just hire FSU people... oh wait they're already doing that. ;') or :'( ? I'm not sure the DoHS is going to be very thrilled about this. Those Fed types generally don't like seeing people skirt around the law. Especially with all those potential terrorists just off-shore! Oops, Was that a cruise ship we just blew up? We thought it was an Al Qaeda invasion force. --- Leo Mauler wrote: > > --- Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > He doesn't need to relax H1-B restrictions, just moor > a couple cruise ships in international waters just > off the coast of California. > > Saw it on Slashdot (used TinyURL to make the link > unbreakable): > > http://tinyurl.com/7kqxb > > Its the coolest kludge, and he already has $billions > to make it happen! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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OT: Bringing India Here (was Re: OT OS issue)
by Leo Mauler 02 May '05

02 May '05

--- Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > This week Bill Gates announced that he would > > like to see the limits removed on H1-B visas. > > > > Isn't it good enough that he can afford to BUY > > India without having to bring it here for > > storage??? > > No, he's just trying to put the rest of the US IT > industry out of work, in order to kill off all > software competition in the US. Resistance is > futile. ;') He doesn't need to relax H1-B restrictions, just moor a couple cruise ships in international waters just off the coast of California. Saw it on Slashdot (used TinyURL to make the link unbreakable): http://tinyurl.com/7kqxb Its the coolest kludge, and he already has $billions to make it happen! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Commentary On Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
by Leo Mauler 02 May '05

02 May '05

Well, what you can see is the Hitchhikers movie. I've been assured from competent sources that most of the new stuff (including Arthur's love interest) are the late Douglas Adams' creations. I've seen it, and its a competent retelling of the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy mythos, plus some extras (the literal "slapstick" is also a Douglas Adams creation). The guy from Planet Magrathea wanted to see the same story again and he was rightfully disappointed, but if you think of it as a retelling rather than an attempt to tell the same story, it works rather well. My only complaints are that they overused the Vogons, and Arthur Dent acting more like an American Action Hero than a British Arthur Dent at the end of the movie. He's Arthur Dent, stuff happens to him, he doesn't happen to stuff! Watch for cameos by Simon Jones, the original Marvin body, and Douglas Adams (his head). --- "Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO" <brian.kelsay(a)kcc.usda.gov> wrote: > Made me laugh: > > > Re:I don't trust him (Score:3, Funny) > > Seriously though, even if RotS is every bit as dark > and well-written > (and freakin' well-acted please!) as one could hope, > am I the only one > who is beyond giving a damn? > > Looking at the last 2 from Lucas, it would be like > having a 3-course > meal where the final dish was fantastic but the > first 2 gave you > projectile-vomiting food poisoning. No real way to > salvage the meal. > > If I do see it, it'll be the DVD rental. A $5 rental > for the entire > family is all I'm willing to risk. > > > Re:I don't trust him (Score:5, Funny) > > I'm on the verge of not downloading it... > after the Phantom Plot, > and Attack of the Cloned Wooden Actors, there's no > faint spark of hope > that RotS won't suck donkey balls. > Expect a total letdown. > Jar Jar? Check. > Hayden Cristensen? Check. > Cartoon Yoda? Check. > Yup, it's gonna suck. I pity tha fools. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: OT OS issue
by Jack 02 May '05

02 May '05

--- Garrett Goebel wrote: > > If there's an OSS version of Ghost that works on > NTFS partitions without > requiring extensive reading and tweaking, please let > me know. Funny how > those proprietary OS's so often require proprietary > $$$ backup solutions. > Sorry, I don't have the reference for it, but I know there is an NTFS module/package for Linux and it's supposedly works well, even with writing. But, I haven't tested it, or used it so my knowledge on it is zero. What we really need is a Windows dll that will replace the NTFS with ext3 then we can convert all those Windows filesystems to ext3 and never worry about NTFS support again. Also, on the patching issue. Garrett's 100% correct. I should have included that inbetween steps 2 and 3 and 3 and 4. Sometimes you have to load a manufacturer patch, then the windows patch and sometimes you then have to reinstall the vendor patch. ;') Brian D. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: Need help!
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 May '05

02 May '05

>-----Original Message----- >From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of Jack >--- Frank Wiles wrote: >> On Sun, 1 May 2005 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) >> Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Just to add to what Dave said... >> >> I have a production server that is fairly low end >> hardware that >> currently has 2952 iptables rules that block >> individual IPs, several >> /24 networks, and a handful of /16s. There is no >> noticeble impact >> on the box. >Wow! That's great news! Ok, so the plan looks rto be >to add the ipaddresses to iptables and change the port >for sshd. Other ports are being probed and attacked, >but not as frequently and not nearly as aggressively. >I'll modify my blacklist gathering script to >automatically add the new addresses to iptables and >send me an email listing the new addresses. > That would be a nice thing to post for the rest of us to look at. The script that is. And I what do you guys recommend for a group of Ips for default block, such as the Korean and Chinese blocks, or a site that lists recommendations like this. Is mapsrbl still active and valid?

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Re: Need help!
by Jack 02 May '05

02 May '05

--- Frank Wiles wrote: > On Sun, 1 May 2005 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) > Jack <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I have about half of the addresses blocked, but > what > > is > > the impact of adding 150 ip addresses to iptables > with > > potentially hundreds more over time? At what point > > will iptables eat up all my bandwidth in blocking > > addresses? > > Just to add to what Dave said... > > I have a production server that is fairly low end > hardware that > currently has 2952 iptables rules that block > individual IPs, several > /24 networks, and a handful of /16s. There is no > noticeble impact > on the box. Wow! That's great news! Ok, so the plan looks rto be to add the ipaddresses to iptables and change the port for sshd. Other ports are being probed and attacked, but not as frequently and not nearly as aggressively. I'll modify my blacklist gathering script to automatically add the new addresses to iptables and send me an email listing the new addresses. Thanks everyone! Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: Meeting dates
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 May '05

02 May '05

>-----Original Message----- >From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org >On Behalf Of Jared > >The meeting dates on the website are not >right... I'm looking forward to going to my >first meeting in over a year this Wednesday, >please correct me if I'm wrong. > >-Jared The rule is: First Wed. of the month and 3rd Tues. unless the meeting date falls on a typical holiday. Then it is only changed by group consensus on the list or in IRC and then announced/discussed on the list. So yes, this Wed. is the 1st Wed. of the month and we'll be there. Don't forget Mother's Day this weekend all you geeks. Get your mom something nice or take her to lunch. It'll help your situation when you need to move back in later. You did move out didn't you?

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