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Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 43, Issue 19
by Earle Beason 17 Feb '08

17 Feb '08

Sounds like a candidate for impact testing, I tested mine and found motors, a bunch of nifty gears, and some parts to experiment with. Actually the printer was dying anyway, so when it croaked, I salvaged the motors for a school project, but it was impact tested in the approved "Office Space," method. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:51:54 -0600 > From: Douglas Bronson <doug(a)bronson-tate.com> > Subject: Re: Why I avoid HP printers > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Message-ID: <47B7933A.2090204(a)bronson-tate.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > It's not only HP! > We bought a Lexmark all in one, just to use as a stand alone fax. > Original cartridges work great. Just don't refill them. > > You will get a message stating that you are not using an approved > cartridge. The machine will still print but you must reset it after each > fax or copy. > > A real pain when you get 15 to 20 faxes a day! > > Doug > >

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Why I avoid HP printers
by Earle Beason 17 Feb '08

17 Feb '08

Leo Mauler In response, I got sick of buying a printer cartridge every 6 months to a year because HP built in a circuit to EXPIRE the ink. Will cheep and free are my modes of operandi, spending 120$ a year for printer cartridges just so I can have the luxury of printing is stupid. If the wife hasn't thrown them out , I will give you two cartridges from the old HP and allow you to dissect them. research can be found http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2003/04/29/hp-inkjet-cartridges… http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/letters/hpPrinters.php http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4293427.stm http://constitutionalcode.blogspot.com/2005/02/cartridge-expiration-date-wo… http://www.mrtweak.com/laptop-and-desktop-hardware/stop-expiration-of-hp-in… http://www.engadget.com/2005/02/23/hp-hit-with-lawsuit-for-dead-ink-cartrid… http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050222/1220232.shtml http://larko.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/your-printer-is-expired/ http://www.technewsworld.com/story/40826.html?welcome=1203205169 http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/00395/ink-jet-printers.html http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/22/2224223

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Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 43, Issue 18
by Craig Aldinger 16 Feb '08

16 Feb '08

RE: somethig new for everybody.... Got this link from a Yahoo Tech news story: www.gethuman.com For all of us who hate the voicemail black hole.... On Feb 16, 2008 12:00 PM, <kclug-request(a)kclug.org> wrote: > Send Kclug mailing list submissions to > kclug(a)kclug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kclug-request(a)kclug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kclug-owner(a)kclug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Kclug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Their greed is our future. M$ old story getting replayed. > (Leo Mauler) > 2. Re: OT: Free Old Stuff (Leo Mauler) > 3. Re: Printer (Leo Mauler) > 4. Re: OT: Free Old Stuff (Philip Dorr) > 5. Re: OT: Free Old Stuff (Monty J. Harder) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:02:20 -0800 (PST) > From: Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Their greed is our future. M$ old story getting replayed. > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Message-ID: <356281.8218.qm(a)web56615.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > --- Oren Beck <orenbeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Vista seems to emulate some fantasy realm's > > evil miasmiic demons radiating sheer wrongness. > > Stretching the metaphor but doing it properly, M$ is > the evil demon on the Nether Plane, while Vista is > merely M$'s physical form in the MMORPG. > > > I normally do not find myself amazed by new lows > > in frankly craptastic actions. THIS: > > http://www.esp.eweek.com/c/a/Archive/Vista-Terms-Evoke-Buyer-Concerns/ > > > Seems tailor made to help Linux and the Open Source > > world? > > Especially this part (regarding UNIX/Linux), if SUA > does what I think it does: > > "Windows Vista Enterprise includes features or > licensing attributes not available with other versions > of the operating system. Those features are: ... SUA > (Subsystem for Unix Applications)". > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:08:49 -0800 (PST) > From: Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: OT: Free Old Stuff > To: "Christopher A. Bier" <chris.bier(a)cymor.com> > Cc: kclug(a)kclug.org > Message-ID: <498983.48376.qm(a)web56601.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > If you let me know where to come pick them up, I'd be > happy to come take up to 10 of them off their hands. > Should I contact Jeanne Malloy directly? > > 400Mhz still works for quite a lot of computer needs, > as my 300Mhz laptop still does many things fairly > well. I know a number of low-income folks still > struggling along at 100Mhz who would be happy for a > quadruple increase in processor speed. > > --- "Christopher A. Bier" <chris.bier(a)cymor.com> > wrote: > > > Platte County R-3 Schools are getting rid of 85 > > Celeron 400MHz machines and 114 15" monitors. > > They might make a good router. > > > > http://www.plattecountyschooldistrict.com/ > > Contact: Jeanne Malloy > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:13:53 -0800 (PST) > From: Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Printer > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Message-ID: <345344.30218.qm(a)web56608.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > --- Earle Beason <Earle-Beason(a)kc.rr.com> wrote: > > > I done some research and have found a few Linux > > printers, but the reviews were lacking for > > content. So kicking it out, does anybody have a > > printer they would recommend? It is for home use > > light use with, and the occasional bouts of > > moderate use. I try to stay away from HP > > May I ask why you stay away from HP? HP supports > Linux with most of its printers, especially low-end > printers, so "staying away from HP" is going to > dramatically shorten your list of Linux-supported > printers. > > One thing I really like about HP is that the print > heads are on the ink cartridges and thus replaced > every time you change an ink cartridge. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:32:59 -0600 > From: "Philip Dorr" <tagno25(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: OT: Free Old Stuff > To: "Christopher A. Bier" <chris.bier(a)cymor.com> > Cc: kclug(a)kclug.org > Message-ID: > <b1e3dacf0802151832o3792c39cn6b3de91d46b2184b(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > how do we actually acquire these? > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Christopher A. Bier <chris.bier(a)cymor.com > > > wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Platte County R-3 Schools are getting rid of 85 Celeron 400MHz machines > > and 114 15" monitors. They might make a good router. > > > > http://www.plattecountyschooldistrict.com/ > > Contact: Jeanne Malloy > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFHsf36E5xXU3JS1mQRAvpzAJ494ugzELXtn1o4dguXqfDkV6FK9ACgvcYW > > XYDdnALZaGN5VsRFJ/VlGGI= > > =/VIB > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Kclug mailing list > > Kclug(a)kclug.org > > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > > > > > -- > to call me use http://tagno25.googlepages.com/call.html >

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OT: Free Old Stuff
by Christopher A. Bier 16 Feb '08

16 Feb '08

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Printer
by Earle Beason 16 Feb '08

16 Feb '08

I done some research and have found a few Linux printers, but the reviews were lacking for content. So kicking it out, does anybody have a printer they would recommend? It is for home use light use with, and the occasional bouts of moderate use. I try to stay away from HP, and not interested in anything that that can be found it walmart.

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Their greed is our future. M$ old story getting replayed.
by Oren Beck 16 Feb '08

16 Feb '08

Vista seems to emulate some fantasy realm's evil miasmiic demons radiating sheer wrongness. I normally do not find myself amazed by new lows in frankly craptastic actions. THIS: http://www.esp.eweek.com/c/a/Archive/Vista-Terms-Evoke-Buyer-Concerns/ Seems tailor made to help Linux and the Open Source world? Ah well, there seems to be a suicide pact mindset in what had been our world leading industries. Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Re: Printer
by Michael Morgan 14 Feb '08

14 Feb '08

Quickly, Ubuntu 7.10 automatically installs HPLIP 2.7.7 (see below). I used hp-probe, hp-makeuri, hp-levels, and hp-print. I could find the hp Deskjet 3653, give it an address, see its ink levels, and add jobs, but couldn't print. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=720752 Posted By: john-hosszu Date: 2007-08-01 15:33 Summary: HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (HPLIP) 2.7.7 Release Release Notes Item number 10. Added Ubuntu 7.10 to distros.dat http://hplip.sourceforge.net/tech_docs/man_pages/index.html hplip-install : Installer for HPLIP tarball. hp-setup : Installs HPLIP printers and faxes in the CUPS spooler. Tries to automatically determine the correct PPD file to use. Allows the printing of a testpage. Performs basic fax parameter setup. hp-probe : Discover USB, parallel, and network printers. hp-makeuri : Creates device URIs for local and network connected printers for use with CUPS. hp-toolbox : The HP Device Manager (aka Toolbox) for HPLIP supported devices. Provides status, tools, and supplies levels. hp-align : Cartridge alignment utility for HPLIP supported inkjet printers. hp-check : Check the existence and versions of HPLIP dependencies. hp-clean : Cartridge cleaning utility for HPLIP supported inkjet printers. hp-colorcal : Perform color calibration on HPLIP supported inkjet printers. (Note: Not all printers require the use of this utility). hp-fab : A simple fax address book for HPLIP. hp-info : Query a printer for both static model information and dynamic status. hp-levels : Display bar graphs of current supply levels for supported HPLIP printers. hp-print : A simple front end to 'lp'. Provides a print UI from the Device Manager if kprinter, gtklp, or xpp are not installed. hp-sendfax : Allows for sending faxes from the PC using HPLIP supported multifunction printers. hp-testpage : Print a tespage to a printer. Prints a summary of device information and shows the printer's margins. hp-unload : Access inserted photo cards on supported HPLIP printers. This provides an alternative for older devices that do not support USB mass storage or for access to photo cards over a network. hp-makecopies : PC initiated make copies on supported HP AiO and MFP devices. hp-timedate : Set the time and date on an HP Officejet. hp-firmware : Download firmware to a device. hpssd : Provides persistent data and event services to HPLIP client applications. hp-scan : SANE-based scan utility for HPLIP. Michael Morgan librarian(a)kclug.org

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Printer
by Earle Beason 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

Thanks all for the input, I got more recommendations for the"Brother," made printers. I'll give them a try

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Re: Printer
by Gene Dascher 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

I have just ordered the following printer from Tiger Direct: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=… and will give a report to the list after I get it and have used it some. It seems like a really good deal at $100. Gene Earle Beason wrote: > > I done some research and have found a few Linux printers, but the > reviews were lacking for content. So kicking it out, does anybody have > a printer they would recommend? It is for home use light use with, and > the occasional bouts of moderate use. I try to stay away from HP, and > not interested in anything that that can be found it walmart. > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > >

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RE: Printers
by Jonathan Hutchins 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

hplip has been under very active development and cleanup lately, the latest release was this past weekend. That, and strong activity on linuxprinting.org and cups means that things are getting a lot better with regard to printing in linux. That said, I upgraded my Mandriva workstation, and now no matter what I do I can't print to it from my wife's workstation - although my laptop prints to it just fine.

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